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REAL ROCKY WINS $$$MILLON LAWSUIT BY TKO OVER STALLONE


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REAL ROCKY WINS $$$MILLON LAWSUIT BY TKO OVER STALLONE

FIGHTNIGHTNEWS SCRIBE: I KNEW CHUCK WEPNER BEHIND BARS!
WE TRADED SHOTS AND I STAYED ON MY FEET!
"BAYONNE BLEEDER" ALWAYS GAVE DA ORDERS!

By NAT GOTTLIEB
 
Senior Writer FightNightNews.com

 

HOBOKEN, N.J. - The first time I threw down with Chuck Wepner was in the joint, a place we called the "Chatterbox," although nobody who'd spent a lot of time there actually remembered why.

Being inside can do things to your mind.
It was 1995.


Chuck was a fearsome-looking, giant of a man, 6-6 with a face full of scars advertising proudly all the bleeding he'd done. First thing Chuck did when he came up to me was throw a right hand, but with the fist open. I took his grizzly bear paw and I was shaking, yeah, I admit it, I was shaking. But I stayed on my feet!

Round One

First shot's on me. Chuck takes it without flinching. Second shot is on him. I can feel it right away. But Chuck, he looks fresh as a daisy. It goes like this, shot after shot, a real battle royale, until finally, I can't take no more. I throw in the towel. Chuck by TKO, 2:31 of the first round. No more shots.
I say, "You ready to give me orders now, Chuck?"

Yeah, I was a wuss, but I had a job to do. At that period in my life, after 19 years as a sportswriter at The Star-Ledger, I had traded up and was a bartender in Hoboken, the town that once made the Guinness Book of World Records for having 80 bars in four-squared blocks near the piers along the Hudson River.

I also did the liquor ordering for the "Chatterbox," owned by my ex-father-in-law George Palermo. George goes back a long way with Chuck. George can remember when the mob reined On The Waterfront (somebody should make a movie) and the factories were running 24/7 and he always had a line around the block at 6 a.m., a mix of longshoremen, factory workers and Wall Street guys (gin martinis, no Starbucks please).

He even had one early rising patron who Mr. P. gave a spare key to so the guy could go in the bar at 5 a.m., drink his fill, then leave cash on the bar, lock up and head off to work. I once asked Mr. P. why he had bricked up all the nice brownstone length windows in the gin mill, he said: "Guys used to throw each other out the windows, so I got tired of replacing the glass."

Chuck never threw anybody through a window, although he may himself have made a few whiz-bang trips through ring ropes. The man who would knock down Muhammad Ali in the 9th round and come within 19 seconds of going the 15-round distance was now a liquor salesman, which is how our match came about.

Chuck, no surprise, did well selling booze. Naturally, he trucked on his pugilistic reputation and the fact that the Ali fight was the inspiration for the original "Rocky" movie. But it was also simply a matter of who could say no to this guy? I mean, if I needed just a case of Dewar's, he’d say, "Order two, I'll give you a 10 percent discount." It was an offer I could never refuse.

Besides selling liquor, Chuck was even more primo at selling himself. Mickey Ward made a fortune off of being Arturo Gatti’s punching bag, and Chuck cashed in big on both his fistic tango with Senor Ali and his connection to the Rock-head movies.

Naturally, like all good war stories, Chuck’s slightly embellished Rocky tale went like this:

"After my fight with Ali, Stallone comes to see me about making a movie based on it. He offered me a one-time cash deal of $75,000, or a share of the movie's profits. (shrugs, smiles) I took the money -- hey, that was a lot of scratch back in the '70s. Who knew from this Stallone then, he was just another bum actor."

As court records would later show, the story was completely untrue. No deal was ever struck, although Stallone made promises to throw a little coin Chuck’s way for the better part of three decades before a federal judge this week stamped his ticket.

But Chuck's version made the rounds back then of the only courts he put stock in, the bars. Later, when he branched out to selling liquor to the casinos in AC, any high roller seeing him would say, "That guy's Chuck Wepner. He went the distance with Ali, and the stunad! (smacks his forehead), takes 75 large instead of the vig from the movie! Marrone a mi! But, I love that man."

It was hard not to. Though he looked like the proverbial guy you would never want to meet in an alley while you’re taking a piss outside a bar, Chuck is a gentle giant, quick with the smile, generous and loyal as long as you don't cross him. Then you look for another zip code.

I worked the day shift, and in gentrified Hoboken that meant nobody under the age of 60 was coming in to drink. The bar attracted mostly retired guys. The only working stiffs I got were the local bookies who came in for a liquid break, or were just tired of drinking at the mob social club on Adam's Street with its wallpaper of Frank Sinatra and Jimmy Roselli photos and album covers. From these guys, and Chuck, I heard stories I would have written about, but then I would never have lived to see my royalties or reunited with Marvelous Michael Marley, but that's another story. Let's just say I knew where all the bodies are buried, even Hoffa's. (Is the NSA reading FightNightNews???)

Anyway, besides Chuck, the Chatterbox had its share of celebrity visitors, including former native sons Joe Pesci, Joey "Pants" Pantaleone (cheap friggin' tipper), Bronx’s Danny Aiello (never drank alcohol, big tipper) and also Willie "The Weeper," a bookie so nicknamed because he was always bitching about something -- but he passed away so I won't say nothing bad about the dead, even though he only left a worn-out buck on five Heinekens.

Finally, there was Buddy and Petey, who owned and cooked in, respectively, the two best restaurants in town, "Augustino’s" and "Anthony's" (Roman emperors, get it?). What made them celebrities was that way back when they had jointly owned a restaurant tucked in the back ass of town between factories called "The Lamppost." Legend goes, whenever Famous Hoboken Person Frank Sinatra came to town, first thing he did after kissing his mother, he would shut The Lamppost down to the public and have the boys cook him sausage and peppers and mozzarella (pronounced "mootz" in Hobokenese). (On his birthdays when ensconced in Vegas, Sinatra flew Mr. P’s son out every year with a big box of sausage and peppers. I asked if I could carry the box, but he told me I was Jewish. I understood).

Then there was Louie La Russo, no relation to the manager of similar name, who gave up working the docks to write plays, one of which was "Lamppost Reunion" -- based on Frankie holding court at the Hoboken eatery, which had a good run on Broadway.

But of all the nefarious celebs to pull up a stool at the Chatterbox, none stirred up more excitement than Chuck Wepner. Soon as they spotted him coming in, the old-timers were up off their stool and throwing punches at him and these were guys so decrepit they only got off the stool to hit the "terlit," as my father used to call toilet in Bayonnese (he grew up there, too and was a "three-sewer hitter," you gotta know mean streets to know what that is, but Willie Mays was a "four-sewer hitter," can you imagine that, but you won't read that in the Hall of Fame).

While many have broken noses to show off as souvenirs from Chuck, I treasured a photo taken of my son Alex when he was like two months old, being held in Chuck's arms in the Chatterbox, Chuck managing to keep a grip on both Alex and his bottle of Bud, one dexterous guy. I put the picture up on our refrigerator, then lost it, along with the refrigerator and everything else when my wife divorced me, but that’s another raw story.

Now I'm living in upstate New York, writing screenplays and boxing stories and digging the country squire life. But tonight I will take a few shots of JD for my man Chuck. Congratulations, you went the distance with Sly "Tightwad" Stallone. A salud!

P.S.: Chuck was no one-trick pony. Besides Ali, he got in the ring with three other guys who became, or had been world champions, and fought three more boxers who would get title shots. (Nobody tells you this because it ruins the Rocky baloney story).

Chuck also lost a 3d round TKO in 1969 to a young guy who had a 3-0 record at the time, George Foreman. Two bouts later, Chuck went 10 rounds before he lost by TKO to Sonny Liston in 1970, at the illustrious Jersey City Armory. It was the final time Liston would step in a ring. Immediately after Liston, Chuck added to his string of celebrity TKO losses by traveling to Wembley England (probably by freighter) for a three-round-and-out to Joe Bugner, who was European Champ and would later lose two title fights to Ali. For those counting, that’s Foreman, Liston and Bugner in a span of five fights. Not bad for a “club fighter.”

Chuck also had his own "trilogy," although not one for the ages. Three times Chuck fought one Randy Neumann for the "New Jersey State Heavyweight Title," the only title recognized by the sanctioning bodies in Jersey bars. In 1973, Wepner beat former heavyweight champ, Ernie Terrell in AC, the next to last fight for Terrell before he retired.

Towards the end of his career, in which he had a 35-14-2 record, Chuck added a TKO loss to then undefeated Duane Bobick (36-0). Fittingly, Chuck's last fight (in a ring) was to a young boxer named Scott Frank, just 4-0 at the time. This was at Lou Duva's palatial Ice World in Totowa, N.J. Chuck went the distance, but lost. The referee was Jersey Joe Walcott. Frank would go on to be 21-0 when he fought Larry Holmes for the title, lost that bout, then retired two victories later.
So, as anybody who is nobody in Jersey can tell you, Chuck Wepner was no bum outside the ring like Rocky, he just fought like him inside the ropes.


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